[Liam]

sory to keep firing questions at you pal, but which 1 and ow much?

TuneKit and cant remember off the top of my head how much i payed for it, got it a while ago

 

[tris harris]

well av looked into it at a mate of mines tuning shop (local to were a live) .. youv to remap it before u put front mount big turbo on , lets the engin get used to more power , u can pic up a 1.7 turbo for around 100pound , front mount silicone hoses (samco do a kit ) get an agresive remap turn the boost up and u can put out the same power as the standard 1.9cdti , 140bhp-215flbtourque , will be doing these mods to mine after x-mas , gona cost about 2k to get the car the way a want , biger brakes suspension etc , av got 3 years warrenty so if anythin goes wrong it gets fixed

sorry, but what a load of crap.

he's doing that so that he can charge to map your car twice imo.

samco hoses wont gain your any power either.

the only thing that may require a map of the ecu is the turbo- but it will probably be fine without a map straight away, you just wont be getting the best from it.

And if he's just going to be doing a map where he just "turns the boost up" then your car is going to chuck out a lot of black smoke at the back- theres alot more paramaters to mapping than just boost and fueling.

 

[CTL]

Boost hose's will help, as oem hoses seem to not like higher psi level however wouldnt see much gains just REAL power instead of restrictive power.

Remapping should be the last thing you do unless there is months and months apart from each tuning item.

Aaron

 

[JordanP]

sorry, but what a load of crap.

he's doing that so that he can charge to map your car twice imo.

samco hoses wont gain your any power either.

the only thing that may require a map of the ecu is the turbo- but it will probably be fine without a map straight away, you just wont be getting the best from it.

And if he's just going to be doing a map where he just "turns the boost up" then your car is going to chuck out a lot of black smoke at the back- theres alot more paramaters to mapping than just boost and fueling.

if u dont get the best from it whats the point in doing it !!!
silicone hoses do make a difrence , th standard ones swell up wen under boost
u always get black smoke from a diesel , even the 1.3s do it after a remap
if you run the 1.3 with th 1.7 turbo it will run like a bag of sh#t,thts why u map
it before changing turbo,s so it can put enuf psi out to get use of the bigger turbo
then remap it again with biger turbo/front mount then it comes altogether and
you get the true power gain....if u think its aload a crap then u might wana look
into what your saying ....... also a de-cat is good aswell makes it go a bit beter top
end ....so am told anyway

 

[JordanP]

TuneKit and cant remember off the top of my head how much i payed for it, got it a while ago

was looking at geting one of these , been told there not ver good as they heat up in engine bay and start going nuts the dtuk one any way, is this bulls##t???:err:

 

[tris harris]

if u dont get the best from it whats the point in doing it !!!
silicone hoses do make a difrence , th standard ones swell up wen under boost
u always get black smoke from a diesel , even the 1.3s do it after a remap
if you run the 1.3 with th 1.7 turbo it will run like a bag of sh#t,thts why u map
it before changing turbo,s so it can put enuf psi out to get use of the bigger turbo
then remap it again with biger turbo/front mount then it comes altogether and
you get the true power gain....if u think its aload a crap then u might wana look
into what your saying ....... also a de-cat is good aswell makes it go a bit beter top
end ....so am told anyway

if you go to someone who knows what they are doing map wise, they will tweak it so you dont get excessive black smoke under acceleration.

I said the turbo may need a map, although if it definately needs it then i stand corrected, alot of cars can run a bigger turbo with no map but just wont be getting the most from it.

front mount should be done before map, no point in paying for one map and then another one.

I dont think its me that needs to look into what im saying, and learn how to use some punctuation.

EDIT: as for the samco hoses, i wasnt aware that you could run high enough psi on diesel turbo's to warrant the need for them.

 

[ROBIN HOOD]

Now, now, ladies keep it to the point please without the need to be personal. :nono:

 

[tris harris]

Now, now, ladies keep it to the point please without the need to be personal. :nono:

its just a little debate :lol:

 

[Missing_pilot]

lol.. i would like to see a 1.3 run the same power as a standard 1.9 150..

But in an instance you should be able to do the same mods to a 1.7 CDTi and actually get upto nearly 200bhp.. *turbo/intercooler/map*

 

[JordanP]

point proven , was at a rolling road day yesterday and there was a boy with a corsa c cdti(same 90 bhp engine as mine) he had a front mount 1.7 turbo and an agresive remap, he made 143.6 bhp and 198.5f/lb of tourque.He has problems with boost hoses blowing of so he replaced them with a set from roose motorsport and solved the problem. not quite the same power as the 1.9CDTI but will br just as quik on power to weight ratio, tidy wee car to was well impresed

 

[Missing_pilot]

the 1.3's in the corsa C start off at 70bhp and 135lbft..

My old corsa 1.7 CDTi C put pulled standard 1.9 150's.. and that was just with a box..

 

[CTL]

Dont decat a diesel turbo please............

It'll loose power from not having enough back pressure


Aaron

 

[DJ_Ben_DJB]

Do you think the standard clutch will take all this torque and power upgrades on the 1.3cdti or would you try and get the clutch off of the 1.7 as well?

 

[tris harris]

Dont decat a diesel turbo please............

It'll loose power from not having enough back pressure


Aaron

i was under the impression that a turbo diesel needed as free flowing exhaust as possible? and it was n/a petrols that needed back pressure for exhaust gas velocity?

have i got that totally wrong?

 

[CTL]

The Diesel Turbo needs a certain amount of back pressure to be efficient enough.

By all means if you wish to decat it go ahead, however from our own experience we wouldnt decat a vauxhall diesel.

Aaron

 

[tris harris]

i wouldnt de cat anyway, imagine the fumes

 

[andywilson]

well av looked into it at a mate of mines tuning shop (local to were a live) .. youv to remap it before u put front mount big turbo on , lets the engin get used to more power , u can pic up a 1.7 turbo for around 100pound , front mount silicone hoses (samco do a kit ) get an agresive remap turn the boost up and u can put out the same power as the standard 1.9cdti , 140bhp-215flbtourque , will be doing these mods to mine after x-mas , gona cost about 2k to get the car the way a want , biger brakes suspension etc , av got 3 years warrenty so if anythin goes wrong it gets fixed

you make it sound so easy. the 1.7 turbo has vnt the 1.3 doesnt. just do a bit of research on tdoc.co.uk to see how easy it is, theres been similar conversations on there iirc.
changing a turbo could mean new manifold, new exhaust etc etc. your best bet is to get the turbo hybridized (if thats a word) so its the standard turbo but with uprated internals (higher boost).

aaron from ctl did a hybrid turbo conversion i think and it looked awesome! he'll be able to tell you for sure

and £2k to change all them parts just isnt gunna happen even if you do the work yourself. just buy a 1.7 if you want more power.

 

[CTL]

Hello Andy,

Yes i was apart of the team that built the Hybrid Corsa C Diesel which is still going strong today i believe.....

Yes we can get the standard turbo and have the internals and housing bespoke which'll mean a better performing turbo - stronger mid-range and costs around £700.00 however even though it'll be a hybrid turbo you'll always be restricted on the actual size of the turbo so need to think if its worth it. I think in total honest if budget was not a problem then go for it however if it is there are more cost effective modifications like FMIC and Remaps which'll give gains too.


Aaron

 

[andywilson]

yeah without a doubt.

just out of interest could you get the vxr turbo hybrided? and how much?

 

[CTL]

Hello Andy,

Yes we'll be adding exactly what we do later this week when we are fully open from our new premesis.

However yes the Corsa & Astra Turbo we can modify to become stronger while holding more boost for longer. I believe wothout looking its around £700.00 if your turbo can be used if not, new turbo hybrid unit £1500.00

Aaron